David Cronenberg talks working with Robert Pattinson and ‘Cosmopolis’
Although David Cronenberg has built a career on films that explore the dark crevasses of the mind, he says he likes to have “good, productive fun” when he’s working. “I have a very light set, and I don’t screw with people’s heads,” he says. During a break from the set of his upcoming “Cosmopolis,” Cronenberg stopped by Variety’s offices to talk with Christy Grosz about the challenges of financing and why he’ll probably never make a big-budget studio film.
You’ve worked with a lot of high-profile British actors like Jeremy Irons and Miranda Richardson. Is there a different sensibility that British actors bring that works well for you?
Part of casting that people rarely understand or need to understand but is a huge part of making independent films is what passport the actor has. If you’re doing a co-production you’re not doing a co-production with America because U.S. doesn’t have any co-production treaties. It means that you cannot use American actors or, if you do, you are very limited. “A Dangerous Method,” technically, does not have any American actors. Viggo has a Danish passport. (“Cosmopolis star”) Rob Pattinson is a U.K. citizen. When you have Paul Giamatti in “Cosmopolis,” he’s the only American actor, even though it’s an American story that takes place in New York. So these are things that you have to consider. Inevitably, for me, if you’re doing an English-speaking role, you look at U.K. actors. It’s true, of course, that they have a wonderful tradition of great acting, and they are actors who do stage and television and movies, which in the old days was unique to the U.K. In America, there was a real stigma attached to you if you were a TV actor. Guys like George Clooney struggled, I think, to finally get out of there, and whereas in the U.K. there was no stigma attached to doing a TV show. So very experienced actors who really understood the difference between theater acting and stage acting, movie acting weren’t, quote, theatrical when they did movies. They knew how to do that, whereas when you’re working with actors from other countries, they didn’t know how to do that. Even some Canadian actors were very theater-oriented, and they couldn’t do that sort of naturalistic American style of acting. So U.K. actors were very attractive, and the quality of the work was great, and so on. That’s a lot of the reason. Often it was a Canada-U.K. co-production. Or if it’s a Canada-France co-production, English actors can work because it’s the European Union and that’s the deal, so it doesn’t have to be a French actor per se, it could be a U.K. actor. So that’s one of the reasons that I work with a lot of English actors.
Financing is never easy for independent films. Do you find that getting someone like Mortensen attached early on helps drum up interest?
You have to find a cast that matches the tone of the movie and the budget level that you’re going for. Everybody knows about studio movies where they say, well, we’ll do this $200 million movie if you get Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt. It’s at a different level, but it’s still the same dynamic when you’re doing an independent film. It’s like, “Well, we’ll buy the rights to France if you get someone like Rob Pattinson or Paul Giamatti or whatever.” You can’t really have your leads be unknown even in an independent film. You can sort of introduce unknowns. Sarah Gadon, for example, who plays Emma Jung (in “A Dangerous Method”). She’s Canadian. She’s my discovery. She has a nice big role with Rob in “Cosmopolis.” So by the time we’re doing “Cosmopolis,” she’s a real asset. Her star is rising. She’s getting attention, and that’s lovely to see. And eventually you’ll be able to finance
I would think somebody like Rob Pattinson could help, too.
The thing is, by himself, it’s not enough. We have Juliette Binoche. We have Mathieu Amalric. We needed the French element to sell France. Paul Giamatti (was) very important to make the film attractive everywhere but also in North America. So one actor, even a great actor or famous actor is often not enough on his own still. That’s the way it goes. That’s the name of the game. So for me the balancing act is to juggle all of those things: the passports, the money, the fame and still get the right actors in the roles. It’s an entertainment trick.
ET Canada spoke to Sarah at the Whistler Film Festival about working with David Cronenberg on both films. There’s some fun chat about Robert Pattinson too.
If you live in Canada you can watch the video directly at ETCanada.
Patricia McKenzie who plays Kendra Hays talks about Cosmopolis and filming with Robert Pattinson.
**Possible Spoilers**
In “Cosmopolis” you play Kendra Hays, Can you tell us something about her? Who is Kendra?
Kendra is an exhibitionist who craves power and wants to dominate Eric Packer (Robert Pattinson) sexually. She was initially hired to be his bodyguard, but quickly becomes his lover. They are opposites in many ways, but both are hollow inside and searching for meaning in their existence. Ultimately, they risk leaving each other feeling as empty as they started.
When the director walked the red carpet last week at the Gotham Independent Film Awards in support of his film “A Dangerous Method,” he stopped to speak again with MTV News’ Josh Horowitz, revealing which scenes in particular were the most challenging for Pattinson.
“Probably the last couple of days was where there was just a long, long, maybe 15-minute scene with Paul Giamatti, just the two of them in a couple of rooms,” Cronenberg said. In “Cosmopolis,” Pattinson plays Eric Packer, a young millionaire who just wants to get his hair cut. Things go awry when his limo gets stuck in traffic and a stalker, played by Giamatti, causes even more trouble.
Cronenberg said that one of the biggest testaments to Pattinson’s skill as an actor was the effect he had on his Academy Award-nominated co-star. “They were both brilliant, and Paul was really impressed,” he said. “If Paul’s impressed, he’s a good judge of other actors, and he said so publicly.”
The director is simultaneously promoting “A Dangerous Method” and putting the finishing touches on “Cosmopolis.” Cronenberg said that juggling both has never been an issue: “I’ve edited ‘Cosmopolis,’ and I’m about to go to Paris next week to do the sound mix of it, but I can switch over. It’s like having two kids. When one kid comes through the door, you’re there for that kid.”
David Cronenberg talks about his motivation casting Robert Pattinson
Your casting of Robert Pattinson in ‘Cosmopolis,’ someone whose acting might not be as critically lauded as Mortensen’s, was obviously a well-thought-out decision, then.
Well, Keira’s acting doesn’t always get praise from high-brow critics, either. I would use that parallel. You have a young actor who’s found success with a franchise just like Keira did with ‘Pirates of the Caribbean,’ who’s underrated because of that. In each case, they’re too pretty and too successful so people are jealous. As a result, people assume that they can’t possibly be good actors.
So what was the exact motivation for casting Pattinson in ‘Cosmopolis’?
He’s the right age, he’s got the right screen presence, and when I looked at his other work I thought he’d be really interesting for the role. Casting is a black art – it’s a bit mysterious how you come to these things – and it’s subjective, too, of course. As a director, there are no rules to guide you. You have to go with your gut, ultimately.
What was it about Robert Pattinson that made you think he was the right guy for the lead?
He’s the right age. He looks right. He looks good in a suit. He looks like he could be a young, tough, billionaire. And I’ve actually thought he was quite a good actor who was very underrated in a similar way to Keira Knightley, I think, when I was thinking of her for Dangerous Method. Both of them have had great financial success and are stars based on franchises, but of course to do that you have to have a kind of screen charisma, you have to have a presence, which you can’t buy or create; you either have it or you don’t. That doesn’t mean you’re necessarily a good actor, though. But you have at least that. I looked at all the stuff that he’s done, and I thought he’s a really good actor. And then I spoke to him, and thought not only that, but he’s a really smart actor. And he’s funny, and he’s very sweet. That’s when I tried to convince him to do the movie, which he was a little afraid of, just because I think he doesn’t know how good he is, basically. And I think now that he’s done the movie, he’s starting to understand how good he is. Because he’s terrific.
7) “Cosmopolis,” director: David Cronenberg (TBA):
Robert Pattinson will get a chance to shed his “Twilight” persona for a tale about a millionaire and his dealings over a 24-hour period in Manhattan. Jay Baruchel and Paul Giamatti co-star in the latest from master director David Cronenberg, the filmmaker behind “Eastern Promises,” “A History of Violence” and upcoming release “A Dangerous Method.”
David Cronenberg talks about Robert Pattinson in an interview with Huffington Post
Why did you want Pattinson for the part in “Cosmopolis”?
Cronenberg: Well I’d watched a movie that I think not too many people have seen called “Little Ashes,” where he plays Salvador Dali, and he plays him as a young man and plays him with a Spanish accent. So I thought, well that’s really interesting, I mean this was before he was a “Twilight” star, because, it takes a particular handsome young man to decide to play that role. And then I did watch some of the “Twilight” stuff and I watched “Remember Me” and I felt that he had a lot going on. He’s supposed to be a super smart billionaire at a young age, 28 he says in the movie. It’s intuition. I didn’t know him as a person, but I’d figured from the movies that I’d seen, like “Little Ashes,” that I could maybe interest him in doing something that’s not “Twilight” obviously.
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